Thread: MPMB's Character Record Sheet (PDF form) + MPMB's Spell Sheets (Excel / PDF form)

Originally Posted by Astromath

I would ask how do you think they are broken, but that is off topic for this thread.

I'll try to think of something else, then.

Sorry to come off a bit harsh, I didn't mean to suggest that your contributions are not welcome, just that if I am going to spend time transcribing stuff I would like it to be stuff that people are waiting for. Stuff that is popular, like the character options in the "Platinum" category on DMsGuild. However, I have no idea how much of those 'bestsellers' are actually used by people who use my sheet and to what extend people would like to see more content.

Originally Posted by marioinfinity

Just curious if anyone else is having issues with the Spell Sheets Generator in the PDF. Both the 12.01 versions (here and dmsguild) crashes both Pro & Reader on 3 different machines. I even left one running for an hour while running errands and never did anything but crash. I know the last vers11.x I had worked, and so I know its not "always" crashed on me. >< their a setting/trick to for it I may be able to give a wack at anyone might know

I'm sorry to hear that the Spell Sheet generation functionality of my sheet is not working for you. I have no issue on my machine, but given the fact that you have issues on 3 different machines while it worked with previous versions sounds to me like there is something more going on. I would like to troubleshoot the issue.

Could you please answer me the following questions:
1) Did you try the same race-class-level on each of the three machines? Can you tell me which combination you tried?
2) Did you try to generate a spell sheet without any other PDFs open?
3) Did you import information into the sheet prior to generating the Spell Sheet?
4) Did you use the same PDF file on each of the machines, or did you ever try generating from a fresh sheet you just downloaded?

If you did try the same PDF every time and it is a PDF where you imported the settings into, it is very likely that the importing is the cause of your problems. Could you try generating a spell sheet from a fresh PDF v12.01 that you just downloaded, for something simple like a level 1 Sorcerer?

It would probably also help if you could send me the troublesome PDF, if it is indeed only the one that is causing the issue.

Just downloaded the most recent printer-friendly version from DMsGuild and was redoing the sheet for a Warlock, and noticed the 6th-level Archfey ability is labeled wrong. It's "Misty Escape", not "Misty Step" since the effect differs a bit from the spell. I looked back at the previous sheet I had for the character(using the dragon-style page, probably v11.95) and it was called Misty Step on there too. A little thing, but probably worth mentioning.

Originally Posted by pdegan2814

Just downloaded the most recent printer-friendly version from DMsGuild and was redoing the sheet for a Warlock, and noticed the 6th-level Archfey ability is labeled wrong. It's "Misty Escape", not "Misty Step" since the effect differs a bit from the spell. I looked back at the previous sheet I had for the character(using the dragon-style page, probably v11.95) and it was called Misty Step on there too. A little thing, but probably worth mentioning.

You are absolutely right, that class feature is wrongly named after the spell. I fixed it in the new version!

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I made a lot of essential fixes for some not-often used features in the new version.

Also, I transcribed ALL Unearthed Arcana subclasses for use with the sheet, which you can find here!.

MPMB's Character Record Sheet v12.05 (11 August 2016) has the following changelog:

• Fixed an issue with importing from a sheet that has the location columns in the equipment section visible (thanks emailer for reporting);
• Fixed an issue with ‘User Scripts’ not working after saving and opening the sheet again;
• Fixed an issue with the skill proficiency text not being updated correctly;
• Corrected the naming of the Warlock (Archfey) class feature from “Misty Step” to “Misty Escape” (thanks pdegan2814 for reporting);
• Updated all the homebrew syntax and example lists on Dropbox to the latest version;
• Added a way to have a (sub)class with spells known add a fixed list of spells to its known spells (e.g. domain spells of the Sorcerer’s Favored Soul origin from Unearthed Arcana);
• Fixed an issue with bonus spells being automatically prepared not showing up as such;
• Updated the FAQ;
• Fixed an issue with the “Add User Script” dialogue not being able to open the FAQ directly;
• Added an option to the Homebrew Syntax to update the dropdown fields;
• Fixed an issue with some ‘bonus spells’ having too many spells to select from.

Is the spell sheet generator built into the Character Record Sheet really THIS slow? It's been going for what seems like 15 minutes so far and still isn't done. Why does it take so much longer than the Excel sheet? That being said, if the .pdf spell sheet generator actually does work, I definitely prefer its setup interface to the Excel sheet.

Originally Posted by pdegan2814

Is the spell sheet generator built into the Character Record Sheet really THIS slow? It's been going for what seems like 15 minutes so far and still isn't done. Why does it take so much longer than the Excel sheet? That being said, if the .pdf spell sheet generator actually does work, I definitely prefer its setup interface to the Excel sheet.

Unfortunately it is THAT slow... I don't have a clear idea why, but I do have some guesses. Unfortunately, all of those things are beyond my control because it relies on time-out issues (or possibly asynchronously running code, I'm not sure) with the different functions in Acrobat that I use. I can't edit those functions so this is what I have to deal with. Obviously my code is also not optimal for this, but with this being my first thing I ever coded I think it works pretty well

How long it takes to complete mostly relies on how many spells you are having the sheet add. If you are generating a full cleric's spell list it can easily take an hour, but just a couple of spells shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes.

The way to see if Acrobat is still working on the sheet or has frozen is to open task manager and see if it is using any CPU. If the CPU usage stays at 0, the program is most likely frozen. If it is using more CPU, than it is probably still working on the spell sheet.

Originally Posted by morepurplemorebetter

Unfortunately it is THAT slow... I don't have a clear idea why, but I do have some guesses. Unfortunately, all of those things are beyond my control because it relies on time-out issues (or possibly asynchronously running code, I'm not sure) with the different functions in Acrobat that I use. I can't edit those functions so this is what I have to deal with. Obviously my code is also not optimal for this, but with this being my first thing I ever coded I think it works pretty well

How long it takes to complete mostly relies on how many spells you are having the sheet add. If you are generating a full cleric's spell list it can easily take an hour, but just a couple of spells shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes.

The way to see if Acrobat is still working on the sheet or has frozen is to open task manager and see if it is using any CPU. If the CPU usage stays at 0, the program is most likely frozen. If it is using more CPU, than it is probably still working on the spell sheet.

BTW, I'm sorry if my previous post came off harsher than intended. Please don't let my frustration with Acrobat code overshadow my appreciation for your work on this. I really do dig the layout of the built-in spellsheet generator. I'm going to try it again on my main home computer which is quite a bit faster than the laptop I was running it on before, to see if that changes anything. I'm trying to work up the sheet for a 17th-level Tome Warlock with several extra ritual spells, so it's a decent-sized spellsheet, but nothing like a divine caster.

BTW, I just re-downloaded the printer-friendly version from the DMsGuild that it said was updated this morning, and it still says Misty Step instead of Escape. Is there a delay before new versions are available on that site? It's a very minor thing, I'm just curious so I know what to look for in the future(I've really started to prefer that version, it's cleaner and easier on my printer).

Originally Posted by morepurplemorebetter

I don't have any problems with you questioning the speed of the spell sheet generation, it is the big thorn in my side for how far I've gotten with this sheet (and learning JavaScript in general). It works as it should, but it is so slow that I constantly question whether or not I'm implementing things the right way, which is inherently frustrating.

FYI, the spellsheet generator in the .pdf ran a LOT faster on my main PC at home. It's a much faster machine with 4x the memory, and it's running Acrobat Reader DC instead of XI, I don't know if it was one of those differences or just the overall increase in computing power, but on that machine it's quite usable. Still takes a few minutes, but not too bad.

I'd like to mention that the spell-less ranger is missing from the UA Subclass options, not that it's that hard to alter manually, but the constant questions regarding spellsheets for spells I don't actually have every time I level up is bothersome so it'd be appreciated.